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Brian Muska: We had a meeting with the ...airport and ...the ...FAA gives usually a grant that this year happens to be about of $150,000 for them to use, and they're project on our list was a total of $128,840, so they wanted to add another project, that being the PAPIs on the runway, the lighting, and that was an additional $103,000.
With that being said, the difference of that project was $81,840. Now they have asked the city... they're checking into...this could be a 95% funded FAA project. 95% of it being funded through the FAA. They are looking into this, but what they are considering about doing is asking the city for an additional [ADDRESSING ADAM LEDFORD] $5,700?
Adam Ledford: Forty seven
Brian Muska: $4,700 to the allotted to the [ADDRESSING ADAM LEDFORD] $2,000 or $2,500?
Adam Ledford: Two thousand
Brian Muska: $2,000 that is already given.
Now, Adam was present, I was present. We discussed everything from what was planned in the budget, and that not being planned into the budget, to giving them a better recommendation of waiting until the end of the fiscal year to come and even ask for that request but in the meantime for them to see if that 95% funding was a guarantee before they even come for consideration of asking for the request.
At this point in time, Adam and I both did not feel that it was the time for addressing the council or asking the council of something of that degree at this point in time. Didn't think it was the appropriate time for it... and the financial state that, not just the city's in, but the financial state that everybody's been in from the economy.
Nich Frohardt: OK, I've got a question to deal with that. I've usually seen where somebody's kicking in 95% and the city comes up with 5%.
Brian Muska: It's a split that 5% so it's actually 2.5%, the city's portion.
Nich Frohardt: Oh, OK, you see that's what I'm getting at.
Brian Muska: Yep. The 95% funding is the 5% that's remaining. Two and a half is the airport, two and a half is the city's portion.
Sandy Tellinghuisen: Up to ten thousand.
Brian Muska: Up to $10,000.
Nich Frohardt: So that's what the city actually puts in out there?
Brian Muska: That is correct.
Adam Ledford: Our budget says they can take up to $2,000, up to 2.5%.
Sandy Tellinghuisen: Cause the city gives more money than that, is that what you asked?
Nich Frohardt: Yeah.
Sandy Tellinghuisen: The city gives them more money than that, that's just for projects.
Adam Ledford: That's just for projects, yes.
Sandy Tellinghuisen: They give and allotment of approximately $9,000 and pay for the airport manager.
Nich Frohardt: OK, so we've got $9,000 plus up to $2,000, plus we do the snow removal, am I correct there Bob?
Bob Scheffler: That's true.
Nich Frohardt: And how long does some of those situations take out of... I'm just trying to get a handle on what this airport's costing, and I would like to know how many people use it, and if we keep throwing this, you know, $9,000 and $2,000, 11 to 12 to $15,000 a year out there, I would just... All I'm asking is: How many people are using this airport?
Brian Muska: I agree. I agree. I mean, that's a concern I have as well. And another thing ...the airport... there's an argument on both sides. Keep it going, not keep it going, fund it, there's only a little bit of money it takes to fund it, but what you have to realize, what everybody has to realize is that every time the airport utilizes the grant money from the Federal Aviation, they're agreeing to leaving that airport open an additional year of 20 years that they already agreed to.
So in other words, their acceptance of that money says that your gonna to maintain and fund that airport for 20 years. Then when you do it again this year, that's another year added on. When you do it again next year, that's another year added on to that 20.
Nich Frohardt: All right, who else is paying out there for that ...$9,000 to keep that open?
Adam Ledford: Who else provides revenues to the airport?
Nich Frohardt: Yeah.
Adam Ledford: Well they receive money-
Nich Frohardt: I'm not talking revenue or planes paying hanger rent, I'm talking about, is there any other government entity besides the grants they get. I mean towns, I mean, Lytton-
Adam Ledford: The county puts in.
Nich Frohardt: How much do they put in?
Adam Ledford: Last year it was $5,000 I think.
Nich Frohardt: For the whole county?!
Adam Ledford: That's what the county is putting in, yes.
Nich Frohardt: And we kick in nine?
Adam Ledford: We give nine as a -
Nich Frohardt: And keep it as... and shove the snow.
Adam Ledford: Yes.
Sandy Tellinghuisen: And pay the manager.
Adam Ledford: And pay the manager.
Nich Frohardt: And pay the manager.
Jim Johnston: But you've got to understand, we own the airport.
Nich Frohardt: Well, so?
Jim Johnston: Well I know but I'm saying we have to be, I mean we have to remove the snow, we have to be-
Nich Frohardt: I realize that, I’m just talking about what it's costing us.
Jim Johnston: Well I know, I know.
Nich Frohardt: You know, as the community, how much the community's getting out of it.
Barb Powell: Maybe we should have a report on it, an annual report on the usage of it.
Nich Frohardt: OK, fine, I’m just, this is where-
Barb Powell: No really, I think-
Brian Muska: Usually, usually on their monthly minutes, and I even have here some you could review... [PAGING THROUGH THE MINUTES] maybe it might not be on this one.
Nich Frohardt: But I was just always curious, exactly what are we get... how much bang for a buck are we getting out of there?
Brian Muska: Well in January, the airplane traffic was used by [PRONOUNCED] Kurt VanHolsen on January 14th and that was the usage of the airport for the month of January.
Adam Ledford: Well that’s a little unfair.
Barb Powell: Yeah is unfair.
[GENERAL LAUGHTER]
Nich Frohardt: We paid her all month, I mean we don't pay her just two days.
Brian Muska: I mean that's, that’s, consider the weather conditions, I mean what we hand in January-
Jim Johnston: That's a little slanted there Brian.
Nich Frohardt: I realize that, but it doesn't matter. Those costs are still there whether somebody flying or not.
Brian Muska:But, you know another point is, is going up there to plow out for one guy to use.
Nich Frohardt: Yeah.
Adam Ledford: And that's one discussion we did have.
Brian Muska: I mean, that's another way to look at it too.
Adam Ledford: Actually, just to bring up a little light on that scenario was where we don't help their number too much either, is that the discussion was made at one time, do we go out there and clear the runways away at a particular time in January and we sat down and we talked with Julie about it, and the decision was made to wait, and the reason why the decision was made to wait was our guys are already in an over set-time circumstances, and we weren't going to pay overtime to have guys go out there and clear a runway that might be used by one or two people, and they accepted that. They understood the circumstances, and they accepted that that was the situation
Brian Muska: They did ask, however, if we would go out there and at least plow a horse shoe type entrance from the west around the office and to the east in the event we can't plow the runways and all that just to give them access to the office to get into there. That's what they did ask me to bring up to the council and I think they do have a valid point with that.
Adam Ledford: And Bob and I have talked with them about it, about how to make sure that they get that done.
Nich Frohardt: But, you know, you see a lot of different Items sometimes on the budget, and you wonder, "OK, where's all this money going to?" and I've always felt, you know and I'm not picking on just the airport, I'm not picking on any entity here or anybody else’s sacred cow, I just want to know how much, you know, is getting utilized out there, because every one of us taxpayers here are supporting that and, you know, what are we getting out of this?
Adam Ledford: Now last year when they came and presented to the council, and my numbers are very very vague from a year ago, ...I know the claim made by Milo Lines at that time was that it was generating well over a million dollars, I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of two million dollars, [TURNS TO BRIAN MUSKA] was it not?
Brian Muska: I didn't hear any of that information, I wouldn't know that.
Nich Frohardt: How?
Adam Ledford: Well I know one of things that, one of the ways its utilized is it's a staging point for dusting of crops, ... in the county area.
Brian Muska: That's an issue though, that is an issue because ...you know, usually where they make their sales, they make their sales in fuel. Fuel sales.
Nich Frohardt: Those boys bring their own fuel.
Brian Muska: But, or is jet fuel and they don't offer jet fuel.
Nich Frohardt: 90% of that’s... what I mean, they bring their own fuel because it's jet fuel.
Brian Muska: Exactly.
Nich Frohardt: That's what we use-
Brian Muska: That's an issue, really, I mean. That's something Julie's been battling up there for [UNINTELLIGIBLE] and we're actually even talking about, can they even rent these guys the space that they're utilizing while they come in beings they're not buying jet fuel. You know? Can we charge them for the space and the room that they're tying up during the crop dusting?
So that's something the commission is working on.
Nich Frohardt: I was just curious, you know if sometime you can throw those figures together, I'd like to hear 'em, and you know, we don't have to listen to them-
Adam Ledford: Actually, if you'd like to look at your orientation packet, I included a portion from the airport along with a CD that had all the information-
Nich Frohardt: I saw that, but I just wanted to hear it because when you mentioned, you know, this two million dollars, I'm a little skeptical of where this is coming from and I wanted to get-
Adam Ledford: I'll be happy to ask Julie to come to the council.
Nich Frohardt: A different perspective on that.
Brian Muska: [TO ADAM LEDFORD] Can you ask them to get you a yearly report on the usage to date for the past two years?
Adam Ledford: For fuel, or just for the-
Brian Muska: No, just for the usage of the airport.
Nich Frohardt: Yeah, how much fuel do you go through out there?
Brian Muska: Because if I wait until next month, it will be two months before I'm able to share that information.
Adam Ledford: OK, I will be happy to communicate that to Julie-
Brian Muska: Thank you.
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